The good -
The band played fantastically well. The light/video show was spiffy, while the actual 'stage' was real small, so it felt almost like you watching a band in a small venue.
Phil's vocals and drumming were great. I thought that was an absolutely storming version of the drum duet/Los Endos.The ticket fee was worth it for that song alone.
So great to hear songs I never thought I hear live - Ripples and Carpet Crawlers. The whole place was rammin' and had a mostly good vibe ( more on that later ).
The bad -
Not much, and some of it wasn't the guys fault. I thought including Duke's travels in the INC/CS/Afterglow medley didn't seem to work properly. I wanted the guide vocals ... I dunno, it sounded a bit clunky ? Plus, by including the medley so early it really undermined the effect of the lights at the end of Aftergolw.
It could/should have been moved to later when it was a little darker, to really get the full effect.
Too many pop songs. That's just a personal opinion of course. Many people seem more than happy to hear HOMH, IT, TIAA and ICD
The ugly -
Some 'fans' ( and I use the term loosely ) seemed up for a fight. One guy thought it clever to get pissed and start on the marshals. Another was just being belligerent, arguing with other people and just acting like a tosser.
I had four people next to me ( two guys, two gals. 50 somethings, dressed for a night on the town ) who seemed to prefer texting their mates, chatting to each other and nipping off to the bar, rather than listening to the music.
'Casual' fans is the best way I can describe them, and there seemed to be quite a few of them around me.
A good analogy would be the difference between the time I went to see Star Wars Ep. III at the first midnight screening, and the time I went to see it in the afternoon a few days later.
In the former everybody wanted to be there; they were real fans. In the latter ... it seemed like some people were there because it was slightly better than kicking around the house.
I'm kinda surprised because I've to many, many gigs over the years and some of the people around me were the worst behaved, most self-centred I have ever encountered.
However, I have not allowed their boorish and annoying behaviour spoil what was a splendid evening's entertainment.
Been to many Genesis concerts down the years but last night's gig in Manchester will go down as the best by a country mile.
Old Trafford was just a great venue for the gig. Superb stage show. Setlist was just right, something for everyone. Think the guys have listened to what the fans wanted. Great atmostphere inside the stadium. Even the weather relented for the whole evening.
Highlights so many, but the ones that stood out for me personally were and not in any particular order.
IT- simply for the end
Afterglow, sang it with all my heart along with everyone else and with a tear or 2
Carpet crawlers- as above.
Domino, the lightening for that was just out of this world. Made slightly more dramatic as it was in the twilight of the day.
After months of anticipation the guys haven't let the fans down.Lets hope this isn't the final farewell tour.
There was real passion up there on the stage tonight more compared to 92.
To all at Genesis, thank you so much for 2 and half hours of memories stretching back 30 yrs. They have proved they are still the best in the business.
I feel like I've been waiting a very, very long time to see my first Genesis show and that was just phenomenal! I loved every second, even the newer, poppier stuff and it was oddly touching when the cameras were turned on the audience to see us all singing "Throwing it All Away" and "Invisible Touch". The playing was superb, better than any live DVDs I've seen, it's as if they're telepathic, I guess playing together for so long it's almost second nature, but you do have to wonder what could have been achieved had Phil stayed in the first place.
Great setlist, I know a lot of people were cynical about this tour, thinking they would just crank out the hits, but I think as balanced a show we're ever going to get from the 3 man line-up. "Ripples" has always been a favourite, so that sent shivers up my spine, and to end with "Carpet Crawlers" was sublime (maybe a hint to the future?)
Phil's singing was fantastic, and I knew this anyway, but what a drummer! I simply cannot think of anyone in his League...err, Chester Thompson. Again it's almost a telepathy thing between them, Genesis were blessed to find such great players as he and Stuermer. As were we with pitch seats and suddenly, incredibly, glorious weather!
I'm going to drive everyone mad going on and on about this for weeks, but that was one blinder of a show. If you're off to Twickenham you are in for a treat!
Just to echo what others have said here.
I have been lucky enough to see Genesis on every tour since 1981 and that gig last night was by FAR the best I have seen anyone play.
I got very emotional during Afterglow, Ripples, FYFM, Hold On My Heart, and Carpet Crawl. I'm still not exactly sure why really other than this felt like a goodbye from this line up.
Phil sang stunningly well throughout the gig. Although the keys on several songs were dropped he kept the power there for me. Mama was the BEST I have ever heard it performed.
The band were SO tight and really seemed to be enjoying themselves.
Phil, Mike Tony, Daryl, and Chester....
Many thanks for the "goodbye" and making this old Genesis fan extatic one last time.
Another great bonus for me was meeting and greeting so many forum members like Mal, Demo Man, Mighty Mellotron, and family, All the 2007 Covention gang, Kiwi Dave, MMP, SqounkNikki, Chocky and family, Steve and Wendy, Mozo and others that I may have missed. Lovely people all of you and thanks for bothering to say hello to me and the rest of Face Value.
God bless you all.
Just this minute got back from Twickers gig!!!
What a show, what a day, what a weekend!!!!!
Genesis overdose indeed - BRILLIANT
Set out at 8.00 am and got to Twickers at 8.50, spend about 20 minutes trying to find a car park where you could stay the whole day and didn;t have to have pre booked. Finally found one at Richmnd College.
Sat and read for a couple of hours, Choccy and the gang met me there and then we caught the train to Putney, found the Half Moon, had lunch (?!) in a rather dubious cafe!!!! then back to HM for GITC gig. Trev and the boys were superb as always and boy were Mark and Andy great together on the drums!
Was good to see loads of forumites there too, although didn;t spot many who said they were going!
Then quick dash back to train to Twickers, and off to Stadium.
Lesley (GabbleRatchet) and I were gobsmacked by the location of our seats. Row 9. Block A2, really near the front and slightly to the left of stage. Awesome!!! Great view, fabulous sound.
The show was simply breathtaking. I DID cry during Afterglow, couldn;t help it. Don't usually, but just hearing THEM doing it LIVE was kinda overwhelming. Still, composed myself for rest of show and had an absolute blast, air drums and guitars to be proud of!
The lights and stage and fireworks etc - simply
After Brussels had left me under whelmed at the beginning, and overwhelmed at the end, I was not sure what Manchester would hold, the first gig for Genesis on their home soil, would this return be great, or not.. Well actually Live Earth was first wasn't it? But let's just pretend that didn't happen.
I set of from Leicester around 3pm, knowing that Manchester was a couple of hours drive, I wasn't driving, so it was a fairly pleasant trip, only really hitting traffic as we approached the stadium, we ended up parking in a primary school about a 20 minute walk from the gig. We had arrived very early, a good two and a half hours before the show started, and we were at the stadium by six pm, after looking again at the merch, we went to find our seats.
My first thought of the stage set up was the fact that it seemed too big for the stadium, and that Brussels seemed a lot bigger! This was good, and like in Brussels I ended up 11 rows from the front, but off to the right of stage as I looked at it. It wasn't a bad position, but again wasn't the best position to see the band.
I was glad of the seats before the show, even if I don't really agree with them; I heard somewhere that the UK shows are the only ones which are seated, which is strange, I know that it's a pain for people.. but what I find more difficult is standing when there are seats around!! I would rather do one or the other, and seeing as people eventually stand anyway . You get my point.
The stadium seemed to fill up, and time didn't seem too long before Genesis were on stage, five minutes or so after the 1945 start time, which I was very disappointed by, because it was glorious sunshine in Manchester, and the screens where rendered inert.
There seemed to be an atmosphere in the stadium, an anticipation, right before Genesis came on, and I just got the feeling everybody was about to stand up, and sure enough as the video wall burst into life, the whole audience stood
Behind The Lines/Dukes End
The audience stood, and cheered their heroes to the stage, and it felt very special indeed, one of those, you had to be there, this was Genesis, home soil, perfect weather, and a receptive/excited crowd. Phil took to his kit at the start of Behind The Lines, and started drumming like a man with something to prove (which he doesn't) I don't think I have EVER seen him as committed to playing as he was at the start of this show, Brussels was no contest.. the sound was awesome, the crowd on its feet.. And then.. the crowd all sat down.
Now, you may think the crowd sitting down was a bad thing, but there was still a great feeling in the audience, and the band played on it was almost as though the audience were taking it seriously, this is music to be listened to, we aren't going to jump up and down as drunken idiots.
Turn It On Again
After a blistering start with BTL, Turn It On Again gets the crowd back to their feet, this is a song they want to be a part of, and Phil belts out the first vocals of this gig with a power and clarity that just wasn't there in Brussels, perhaps the days rest between gigs has helped his voice, but this seemed superb from start to finish, with Phil performing with gusto. The crowd laps it up, and to me this gig is completely different to Brussels, there is an understanding between the crowd and the band it seems..
No Son Of Mine
In Brussels I was disappointed, but Phil's voice on this version is much improved, I know I mentioned above about Phil having a night off before helping, but Phil is on the ball tonight, this vocal is just superb, I know I said I liked Ray Wilson's live version best, but I could be persuaded on this performance by Phil, the band seem really geared for this performance, and more so the audience just lap it up. Phil sings this song with appropriate menace.. And I get a couple of good shots on my camera, again the crowd sit for a good portion of this song, and part of me feels they should stand, but the audience don't, not out of disrespect or disinterest, but as I said they are interested.
Land Of Confusion
This song gets the crowd back on their feet, and for the first time I feel Phil is really interacting with the crowd, the crowd are very vocal during this song, and it all adds to a very special feeling, there are absolutely no mistakes, and vocal its on key, the whole.. bit.. 'I remember long ago..' is echoed by the crowd around me in unison with Phil, and its just brilliant, the screens are of little use, but it doesn't matter..
In The Cage
Phil does his little jokey bit about the old songs, and how people remember the time when they had hair, then launches in to ITC, the crowd stay clapping along, but I don't think a lot of the crowd can clap along in time! So it kinda fades out.. (the clapping) the song again everything seems to be firing on all cylinders, the band seem to be working there way through the set with some emotion, tonight, less robotic, more human. Phil takes to the drums and again plays with a passion seemingly not there in Brussels, of course this is from my perspective, and I can only comment on what I have seen, but the band play this part brilliantly.. as the song drifts into
This was a very special version performed here, with a lot of the audience singing along at the tops of their voices, its clear that Genesis are loved on their home turf, Phil says they are popular with the man on the street and not the critics, but I bet there could be few critics watching this performance of this song who could find fault. The crowd absolutely love this song..
Hold On My Heart
Phil could introduce this song as a the toilet break song.. Because that's what happens.. several people in my row decide now is a good time to go and use the toilet/get more beer/chips, Phil sings this song very well, and there are some people in the audience who do genuinely like this song, and after all the excitement of ITC, it seems to break the rhythm of the show for me.. I'd play That's All, get people moving.. But although Phil sings its my show.. I guess set list wise it's their show!
Home By The Sea
Phil's usual jokey introduction to this song seemed a bit extended tonight, perhaps he wanted to really scare the audience into not going home, but if we don't go home Phil then where do we go? Phil plays the instrumental part very well again, the band really are in full flow tonight, with vocals being sung with clarity and power, this is really Genesis, I said in Brussels they needed to up there game, that the UK shows would need to be much better, and on tonight's evidence so far they are, a really cracking song.
Follow You, Follow Me
This performance seemed much better than Brussels as well, none of the awkwardness, Phil seems to nod to somebody during the start, and his vocals get turned up, or to my ears they get placed higher in the mix.. and it works. much much better.
Firth of Fifth
Brilliant take on this song, as I have said the band have found some power, some rawness, something that while there is a general feeling of polished professionalism to the shows, there is something more at this gig there seems to be a willingness to go an extra mile, with first rate performances.
I Know What I Like
The crowd go mad during this song, singing along at the top of their voices, its almost like they are auditioning for the band! Well apart from the pissed guy next to me, who doesn't know the words at all, Phil may well say this is for the anoraks, but the audience love it, all of them I don't see a single person around me that doesn't want to join in, and play with Phil when he's asking for applause. This is really the pinnacle of performance.
Another song which the audience sing along with, Mama is one of my favourite songs, its Genesis version of In The Air Tonight, its menacing and atmospheric, with thundering drums at the end, the power Phil sings this with is unbelievable, in a show littered with terrific performances this one outshines them all for me.
Away from the murky part of town.. to the place where the blue girls play, I think in the UK this has a great place in fans hearts.. The male fans at least, singing about blue girls.. there were lots of confused looks by some women near by me, but lots of drunken blokes singing 'sail away away ' at the top of their voices (me included) this is a rock love song.. a bit abstract, but a total anthem. I wonder why Genesis haven't had more success with songs like this, why didn't people back in 76 realise how beautiful tracks like this were
Throwing It All Away
This for me, lets the side down.. in Brussels I said I couldn't remember it.. well tonight I can, and its cringe worthy it really is, having the cameras find people in the audience who stupidly act as they might if they were caught on camera passing Dixons window (Dixons is a store in the UK, which has camcorders in the window linked up to a TV.. so you see yourself on TV as you pass..) It is truly awful an embarrassment. Now that said most of the audience loved it, the people who were on the screens loved it.. but I just didn't.. and it spoils the song, as it takes away the meaning from the song to a five minute lets film idiots in the audience who'll jump around when they see themselves on the screen. Sorry.. but in a great show.. I am stunned by how broad this is.. Its make everybody happy time
Ah.. back to normality. Phil does his usual Domino principal stick (which again misses my section of the crowd.. he really needs to mention that the Domino principal doesn't get us all!) but.. the right hand side of the crowd (as I look at the stage) boo the left hand side of the crowd when they are lit up.. and Phil is caught out by this.. and says.. 'hmm.. Interesting...' but every time the left hand side are lit up.. the right hand side boo them.. very funny moment in the gig. Phil's vocals tonight as I've said are first rate but on this track they exceed first rate, I don't think I've heard a better version.
Drum Duet/Los Endos
The crowd really love the drum duet when it gets going, and start clapping along loudly.. and go absolutely mental during Los Endos, this was never one of my favourite Genesis tracks, but live it is truly superb, I was blown away in Brussels, and this to exceeds the version I heard there, Genesis I think have stepped up a gear, they were already good, tonight they are proving just how special they are, it is such a shame that a band as powerful as this are ending their love affair with the road, I know they are old men now, and I know that the record of the history of Genesis is hardly littered with critical success, but they are just superb live.
Tonight, Tonight, Tonight
Another excellent performance, part of me does wish to see the full length version live, but I'm happy with this, and sad at the same time because I know it signals the end of the show.. Or the closing part of the show, two and a half hours really does fly by when you are in the company of Genesis. I can't remember looking at my watch or feeling bored at all.
This performance is notable because of the way Phil sings the last verse 'you know she will f**k up your life, you'll want her just the same' and then with a bit of anger he spits out 'me I know..' rather than.. 'Ask me I know' which really adds something to the song it gives it a different twist than in Brussels. The ending as normal is spectacular, well how can it fail to be, it just is.
I Can't Dance
The encores.. I Cant Dance is run through with a great deal of fun, they seem to wander around the stage a bit more, in fact, PC seems to have been a bit more mobile during this set than during Brussels, whether that is because it isn't raining I don't know, the audience, go along with it.
The Carpet Crawlers
Phil seems to sing as he has sung all night with more passion and enthusiasm, and although I still really disagree that this song is the closer, as I feel you should go out with a bang rather than a whimper, it is performed really well.
The show seems to be over very quickly.. and I'm soon heading for the car, with Phil's words about Manchester 'always being good to them' and 'have a safe trip home if you have travelled far' perhaps realising that some of the audience had travelled from Scotland some three or four hours away.
What did I think?
A huge improvement on Brussels, the band seemed really with it, Phil in particular seemed to have a huge point to prove, which I don't feel he has, of course this was just how I viewed it, and I am sure the weather had an effect, the crowd seemed fantastic, singing loads and loud.. (Much more than the bigger Twickenham stadium in London, but more about that in my London review...) it was the best Genesis gig I have been to, ok I've only been to three on this tour, but this was something special, Phil and the boys seemed really into this gig, really wanting to make it different..
The drive home was less fun, stuck in traffic in Manchester, and then for an hour on the M6, so I didn't get home until nearly three am, and its only about 100 miles away! Not a very pleasant trip back at all, but it was a very special show.